In some small way this donghua is like Peerless Martial Spirit (and for a lot of donghua for that matter) the main character will attract trouble or he goes and find trouble, however unlike Peerless Martial Spirit, Tan Yun will
- Kill any villains or let them go to bait others to kill
- Have more than one waifu
- The Sect Master is more supportive of Tan Yun instead of being an dickless limp like the one in Peerless Martial Spirit
- He will eradicate all those who opposes him within the sect and stay, unlike Chen Feng who eventually leaves sect after sect

- He is recognised and valued as disciple slowly, as he eradicates those nepotistic elders and followers who actually are spies for other sects and empires

Earth step? I remembered that there's a certain MC that is well-versed in using escape techniques 🤣

Awesome storyline but animation is kinda put me off☹️. Let them try 2D🙏🔥

Nah, it won't work... It will most likely becom a live2d comic(basically a moving comic)

If it was Japanese dub they would have already killed off the main character and taken all the oppai!

Idk Tan Yun, I think your line of thought is very insecure.

Insecure how? He knows the elder brother will come for revenge and he is confident he can beat him. How is that insecure? Or you think he shouldn't be so violent? The whole purpose of the sect is learning to fight and getting stronger so you can win fights. So being belligerent but honorable is expected.

Well I was referring to how he goes on about dignity as if loss of face was equal to dying, but you actually raised some good points to disagree with.
If a sect was meant to promote conflict then he's hardly any different than li ziquan.
Also, he's clearly stronger than any of those who come after him, I don't see how bullying them helps him improve.
Besides, they're just the pill division, are they even expected to be fighters?

You arent wrong to think that the gardeners are weak, however you might have forgotten that each inner sect disciple had to pass the challenge that Tan Yun and the girls just gone through, so in terms of strength they are stronger than the outer sect disciples, they can still fight but you are again right because gardeners within the Pill Division dont spend a lot of time cultivating, they are weaker than the other division including their own Pill Division, but it doesnt mean they are useless. Weak yes, useless no

The pep talk Tan Yun gives reminded me of Oda Nobunaga during the Battle of Okehazama where he was outnumbered and his troops lost their will to fight, he gave this speech:

"Imagawa has 40,000 men marching toward this place? I don't believe that. He 'only' has 25,000 soldiers. Yes, that is still too many. So, Sado, you want me to surrender. What if we do surrender? Will you get content with losing your life that way? Or what if we hold on like Katsuie wants me to? What if we stay here in this castle, lock it up, and wait until the Imagawas lose appetite and stop the siege and go home?
We will be able to prolong our lives for five or ten days, and what we cannot defend will still be undefendable. We are at the bottom of the pit, you know. And our fate is interesting. Of course the misery is too great, too. But this is how I see it: this is a chance in a lifetime. I can't afford to miss this.
Do you really want to spend your entire lives praying for longevity?
We were born in order to die!
Whoever is with me, come to the battlefield tomorrow morning. Whoever is not, just stay wherever you are and watch me win it!"

Speeches aside, I don't see where have I made the oversights you pointed out. My points were:
1) shielding students from li ziquan doesn't promote conflict
2) bullying people doesn't make Tan Yun stronger
3) shouldn't pill division disciples refine some medicine to prove who's stronger?

Oversight? I was referring to the part where you refer the gardener in Pill Division as being weak, I agreed with you, so I dont understand

1. Regardless if Tan Yun shielded the gardeners or not, they were always looked down upon by other inner sect disciples, they will still be bullied and beaten
2. I dont know, your take is that he is bullying, my take is that he is returning the favor and baiting those that tried to harm or provoked him, Remember every single time, people started it, Tan Yun doesnt go out of the way to provoke others, and where seems he starts a fight, it is only because others started it first or was sent to provoke him.

You walk around and see some fellow classmates being bullied by some other class. is it wrong to help your classmate being bullied? Is it wrong for letting those that were bullied to return the favor back to those bullies?
Bullying doesnt make Tan Yun strong, I agree, but again I dont see him releasing those who tries to harm and provoke him being beneficial to him either or do you expect Tan Yun to take everything that comes his way, take a beating or even die and not fight back?
3. I think this is where most people get confused, these students are gardeners, their duties within the Pill Division is to take care of the herbs and medicine, not to refine pills. In the novel, pills were expensive to refine, and they couldnt use the ones in the garden for their personal use, this isnt BTTH where you can have a competition where you prove who is better and people respect you, these are gardener students, they dont have much cultivation foundation much less the ability to refine pills
In an ideal world yes, they should compete to see who is stronger, but Tan Yun's world is filled with nepotism and self serving people almost like the world of Peerless Martial Spirit (ironically it became like this because of his original self's death 9999 reincarnations ago)

At the end of the day, you are entitled to how you see the donghua as, I am not here to convince you that I am right, otherwise we will have over 100 posts, I am just presenting you with my opinions, you are free to disagree with them, but I dont want to go into a debate. Personally if Tan Yun's actions disappoints you like this, I would drop the donghua and watch something else, just like I did with Peerless Martial Spirit, couldnt stand the constant bullying and villains escaping or being saved by someone else lol

You arent wrong to think that the gardeners are weak, however you might have forgotten that [...]

Whether you like the term "oversight" or not, can we at least acknowledge I never said they were weak, and their power scale has nothing to do with my three points?

1) Yes, exactly

If a sect was meant to promote conflict then he's hardly any different than li ziquan

2) Despite what he said in the past, he's clearly enjoying killing. And to answer your questions, no, it's not wrong to help people but maybe it's not a good idea to become exactly like the villain you're fighting against.
3) That's fair, the anime has yet to show us what sort of duties the pill division takes care of so you're probably right.

And don't worry for me: I'm not forcing myself to watch this show, I actually love it, and I like commenting on it.

Fair, my fault for assuming that you meant they are weak when you said "Besides, they're just the pill division, are they even expected to be fighters?"

I believe it was Aerlis who said that the sect promoted conflicts, I dont agree with that, since in the novel, the sect was very large and nepotism and bullying mentality existed for quite some time this is also because those troublemakers were in fact agents and spies from other sects and empires Again, sure it looks like he is bullying that POS lol but I just took it as revenge and encouraging his fellow gardeners to stand strong and protect themselves

Sadly that is what most cultivation novels and donghua falls into, best to beat the crap out of bullies and in someway become a bully yourself, you can get away with a lot of things if you are the main character, and sometimes I dont agree with their actions

A good example is, in most donghua, during an auction, main character loses out on an item, and he goes and kill the winning bidder to get the item, and that is OK, while if the same thing is done to the MC, it is a big evil villain and a big no no, like how is that fair? So being a MC makes it alright? Not that I agree with it

On another note, this reminds me of a youtube video Karate Kid Daniel is the real bully lol where the main character is from another perspective is the bully and "villain"

I mean if I were living in that world I would enjoy beating and killing people who provoked me, after all, 9999 reincarnations of suffering, losing everything I have, being bullied and provoked would warp my sensibilities lol but that is me

The Pill Division and other divisions are actually split into 2 or 3 tiers, Divine, Immortal and the one Tan Yun is in (if it is 2 tiers then he is in the Immortal one, been a while since I read the novel and this is why there is an inexhaustible amount of villains that appears), and within each Pill division, it is split into two responsibilities, gardening - taking care of herbal medicine and refining - task of refining pills, these two dont mingle with one another, and garden task is look down on even within the Pill Division.

It gets interesting as he gets stronger and starts to refine pills, weapons, artifacts and talismans and of course his additional members of his harem, wait til he catches the eye of the Sect master :)

Yea, it was him who said the purpose of a sect is fighting, and my line of thought was "even if that's true Tan Yun is still behaving poorly"

I suspect this disregard for rules and morality in favour of what the strong decides might be a cultural thing because there are very few donghua where the mc actually shows any actual respect for the men who happen to be weaker than them. Notably Shanhe Jian Xin.

The disregard for rules and morality is just a plot device to grow the main character, not sure if you watch BTTH (Doupo Cangqiong) Xiao Yan actually loves Jianan academy, even though initially there was infighting much the same as Tan Yun in Huangfu sect but eventually after the small amount of people were defeated the academy becomes a good place to learn and stay, while Tan Yun had to kill all those that tried to kill him. As BTTH story progresses, Yao Lao's sect didnt have the infighting at all, and Xiao Yan never had a conflict within that sect whether they were stronger or weaker than him
Another one would be Shenyi Jiu Xiaojie in one of the academy she goes to, everyone respected her, well she was one of two women there lol, in any case all the men respected her since she choose to attend their academy which had a bad reputation of being an academy "filled with strength obsessed howling wild barbarian men"
Again the most used plot device is where a sect or academy is used as a foil to strengthen the main character or to make the reader or viewer in this case feel sympathy for the mc, although sometimes it doesnt work and one would feel enough is enough and can backfire (like Chen Feng in Peerless Martial Spirit, marry your senior sister already and leave the sect, who cares about your master, if your master left, then go look for him, he aint coming back, geez)

To be completely fair the first couple of seasons of doupo cangqiong seem like a completely different donghua compared to the rest of it so idk how seriously should I take them but yes, you're right.
Of course what happens in the accademies is just an example, the supremacy of strength over law and morality applies to everything to the point if the MC is strong enough they can kill the son of a influential family and get invited by his father to become their new son.

since when is it wrong to protecting people and your self? if someone is trying to hurt or kill you and your loved ones. are you going to sit there and die? no your going to defend yourself and your friends and family. correct! what Tan Yun is doing is justice they deserve what is coming to them. they always attack him or his people first. so he is always in the right! if you see this as wrong then you're blessed to be so sheltered from violence and bullying. as self defense is a real and legal thing in some countries where if someone is trying to do bodily harm to you or someone else. you are aloud to fight back. if you own a legal fire arm and someone is trying to kill you, break into your house, ect..... your legally allowed to kill them! so please get some common sense cuz your lack of it is hugeeeeeee. also the rules of the sect are if someone is trying to take your life kill them!

Pretty sure you're just trolling but whatever, I'll bite.

Do you know what happens after you kill someone in self defense? Even if you're in the right, do you know the nightmare it becomes? Investigators questioning whether or not you were actually justified in doing what you did, not to mention the trauma of taking a life.
Unless you're like Tan Yun who actually enjoys it, he looks forward killing the next person who's gonna dare to cross him. That's what I object to, protecting people from getting bullied is obviously fine.

I'm not trolling and yes I know they will try to disprove your claim of self defense. that is why you never trust law enforcement and get a lawyer. Yes enjoying killing is not right in this day and age but warriors of old lived for the thrill of battle and killing there enemies while enjoying it. as this is a fantasy world of old time. maybe do some research into the past so you can expand your mind and see things from others perspectives. on another note to get USA the colonists first befriend Native Americans then backstabbed and slaughtered them. yet they still celebrate it yearly as it never happened. also before you judge an anime for one little thing do some research on history and humanity as we have done way worse. also the people in this day and age are so fucked up and on such a downward spiral. I don't see long before enjoying killing people is the norm.

ugh whatever, I'll leave making snarky remarks to you and address only what's worth my time.
I don't need your permission to judge a show, but let's pretend I do for the sake of the argument. If you "don't see long before enjoying killing people is the norm", then why would you prevent me from criticizing Tan Yun's psychopatic behaviour?

well you have a point there the psychopathic behaviour isn't right. there is nothing wrong with beating up a bully and self defense which is mainly the original comment I was addressing.

He is the MC. MC will never die in its own story. More and more cannon fodders will have their asses kicked by him. + adding powerful ladies in his harem ;3